Sunday, 7 July 2024

“Logic and rationality are not separate from you. If that goes, you go!" - UG




Imagine taking away 'logic & reasoning' from experts, or 'belief and faith' from believers, all nothing short of a devastating body blow.
In this exposé, UG probes deeply into our lifelong investment in 'logic and reasoning' (or the 'intellect'), the be-all and end-all of rational existence.
Here, UG highlights the serious limitations and futility of logic on dealing with 'living problems' of life, the problems that we encounter on a da-to-day basis while dealing with or living with others - the problems of love, hatred, jealousy, anger etc.
UG points out that our logic could be as good or shaky as our own intellect, and therefore, could be highly flawed and limited.
Being otherwise the sole instrument behind our successes or achievements, the ending of logic or rationality could simply mean the end of 'I' or the 'self'.

“Logic and rationality are not separate from you. If that goes, you go!"

- UG

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Audio Transcription

Audio Clip

There is nothing higher, lower there. You see, your life is not run on logic. You would love to believe that life is run on logic…There is rationality, some bastard invented the word, man is a rational being, man is not a rational being, he is the most irrational being. You don’t seem to be logical…no.

The logic is good to discuss, it is a weapon, it is an instrument like an arrow, gun. Used in an argument with somebody, to win the argument, it does not help you to understand life, life is something living.

You see the problems are ‘living’ problems. Anger is something living there. Jealousy is a mighty…if somebody makes a pass at this girl of yours, what is there is something living…you understand?

The filthy culture, the human values tell you, ‘Don’t’, it’s that ‘don’t’ that is destroying the living thing there that cannot harm you.

Anything that is happening there, is a living thing. This body is not dead. All your logic is dead. All the teachings of all teachers are dead words, dead ideas. So, they can’t touch anything living there. They can’t help you to solve any problems in your life.

In exactly the same way what you are saying is not true, you may get some insight into your own problems. You may feel that you have some insight as a result of discussing things with me. But I am telling you that, that insight is yours, it is created by yourself, and so that insight, however extraordinary it may be, is not going to help you to solve your problems. No, it will not help you at all!

So, the logic has no meaning there, except as an instrument which you use to win the argument with somebody else, it’s a sharper weapon, but don’t forget this that there is always somebody in this world more intelligent that you are, you know, so when you meet that challenge, you will be surprised that the logic is not good. That’s all its useful, in that area. But if through logical thinking, you feel and think that you can solve your living problems, you are not going to succeed….

You ain’t got a chance here in the sense you can throw all that logic at me. You see, if you accept what I am saying, you are not accepting, your acceptance is to try to fit what I am saying into that logical framework so that logical framework can continue…

You see when once the logical framework there collapses, you are in trouble! So, you have necessarily fit what I am saying to fit into that framework so that you can strengthen that logical structure there. Logical structure there is worthless, its good in a certain area, in a particular field, but it’s not going to help you to understand anything and solve your living problems.

I can say that, but you have tremendous faith in logic, not only faith, but you are made up of that logic, you are made up of those experiences, you are made up of that rational thinking, so it is not going to go! All that will go once you become a dead corpse. There is no other way!

So, don’t even try! It’s not in your interest to do that kind of a thing. The end of it, is the end of you. So that is not somewhere, it is not that you are ‘logical’, you are ‘rational’, logic and rationality are not separate from you. If that goes, you go! That’s the problem there! So, you have necessarily to fight, strengthen that and fortify that.

You cannot for a moment say that logic is worthless, it is very useful, very effective in your daily life. Don’t you do that all the time? Both of you are doing the same thing …He is trying to win the argument over you…that’s a fact in your life. Or if she succeeds that’s the end…both of you can make up for all this argument in the bed, that’s all! And then it starts all over again…Everything else ends up in the bed, sorry! Ends up in the bed, making love and you forget…I am rude and crude, but that’s a fact.

The logic that you have is borrowed from somebody, that’s the logic, so what’s so marvelous about the logic? It’s not yours, there is nothing of yours there…we have learnt how to be logical, if logic fails, you become violent. That’s a fact!

If you fail to win someone over to your point of view, through every means you have, through explanation, through logic, through this, through fight, through love, (in the end ‘love’ you see), and when that fails, what you are stuck with is frustration, you are frustrated, frustration is anger.

So, you can’t deal with anger, you are not dealing with anger, frustration. You are frustrated, because you can’t have your way! You are dealing with something totally unrelated.

It’s not jealousy you are dealing with there, fear of losing, so you have taken for granted that it is yours, otherwise why should you be jealousy, somebody makes a pass at her, you possess her, can you possess a living being? You can’t even possess a dead corpse, its stinking, so you throw away it.

You can possess some filthy ideas, experiences, dead things, property, your paintings, that’s all you see!




Monday, 1 July 2024

" As long as you are looking for ‘how’, so long you are doomed." - UG


( Source for the Blog: Audio Recording. Please scroll to bottom of the page for audio and transcript)

In this deep dive, UG unravels the knotty issue of our stubborn craving for knowledge, especially of the spiritual kind.

There is the feverish drive in all of us to know more and more, we want answers for ‘who am I?’, ‘what is life, soul, consciousness?’, ‘is there life after death? what is God?’ and so on.

The tyranny of knowledge lies in its unsatiated, monstrous appetite.

People are desperate for answers of various kinds. Many feel empty, miserable, pathetic in life and seek answers or solutions for ‘problems of life and existence’.

And there are many more who enjoy a steady source of income, a decent bank balance, enough social security, or insurance. At some point they too feel bored and ‘turn spiritual’ and begin to seek answers for questions,

“Is that all that there is to life? What next?” - UG

These are the 'made-up problems' of the well-fed. They chase after some form of spiritual excitement, engagement, or entertainment to tide over their emptiness or boredom.

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Questions are born of answers

All topical questions on life, God etc. look alike. But the context, content, intent, interest, and intensity of inquiry varies vastly from individual to individual.

Every inquiry is unique based on one’s cultural background and individual journey of life.

The fact is many of our questions are triggered off by what others have said or written. UG spotlights this irony in his remarkable observation,

“All your questions are born out of (other’s) answers” - UG

Though each of us carry unique questions, as we begin to dig deeper, we stumble into answers or solutions given by others. All too often, these ‘borrowed answers’ fall short, and fail to address the real issue behind our burning problems.

Cure, sometimes, is worse than the disease. And incomplete or incompatible answers by others could cause havoc in our lives, raising more dust and doubt, triggering off an avalanche of new questions, completely muddying the waters.

Not getting the right answer or solution, or far worse, getting stuck with a wrong solution, could easily push us into the quagmire of desperation, despondence, and delusion.

Also, there is the clear danger of walking into a trap of relationship with some self-serving guru or conman selling some cheap solution. Once we are in, it is never going to be easy to wriggle out of such exploitative relationships.

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What & How

UG says that all our inquiry revolves around two fundamental questions of ‘what’ and ‘how’?

“So, ‘what do you want (in life)?’

And then, how you can get what you want? “- UG

UG delivered a ‘knockout punch’ to all wobblers and shallow-minded questioners with this single most important counter-question,

“What is it that you want? What is that single thing that you want in your life?” - UG

At any given time, we are all chasing a dozen different goals. We lack clarity and our priorities are utterly skewed.

“The problem with you is that you want ‘this’, ‘that’ and the ‘other’.

But, if you really know what you want, there is no way you can’t get it!” - UG

None of us seem to really know what we want in our life; we simply indulge in ‘window shopping’ or ‘guru hopping’ in the bylanes of the spiritual bazaar because we have nothing else to do and nowhere to go.

Many of us squander our whole lives without knowing what we really want. With the simple ‘what’ question, UG makes us stop in our tracks and reflect on this serious screwup on our part , to grow up and act more firmly and responsibly

Apart from the ‘what’ question, UG also points to the dangers of yet another rogue question, the ‘how’,

“The trickiest of all questions is the ‘how’?

As long as you are looking for ‘how’, so long you are doomed…you know.

So, how to live? That’s the thing bothering people for centuries, so every religion, every teacher says, ‘This is how you should live”. So how can I be free of that? That’s the one question that transforms into millions and millions of questions, that’s all” - UG

Like greed for money, the greed for knowledge is endless. And the ‘how’ is a handy tool, the ‘master key’ to unlock the floodgates of knowledge.

Whenever we seek any answer or solution, we inevitably invoke the ‘how’ to tap into the vast reservoir of knowledge. The ‘how’ triggers the ‘movement of knowledge’ or the ‘continuity of knowledge’,

The 'how' feeding the 'you'

“What you call the ‘you’ is the ‘continuity of that knowledge’ that is put in there. “- UG

This ‘movement of knowledge’ is essentially the process of ‘thinking’. UG avers that as long as there is the ‘movement of knowledge’ (or as long as there is thinking), so long there is the illusion of the ‘you’ or the ‘self’ or the ‘thinker’.

Tom and Jerry spring to life only in movement or animation. Else they are mere drawings on paper.

The still images or drawings, rolling at twenty-four frames per second create the illusion of the ‘motion picture’.

“So, if that (movement of knowledge) is not there, ‘you’ are coming to an end, what you call ‘yourself’, that ‘you’, is coming to an end.

So, you do not want to come to an end. You want that ‘you’ to be transformed, changed into something else, into a loving (being), and you want to function on a different level, or different dimension but you do not want ‘that’ to come to an end.

You see the only way that it (the ‘you’) can maintain its continuity is through this constant demand for knowing more and more and more.

The only way it can add more and more to that knowledge is by asking this question, ‘how?’ “- UG

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The past and its tyranny

The intellect is rooted in the ‘past’ which is the sum and substance of all ‘knowledge and experience’.

Any attempt to deal with spiritual or psychological problems, all rooted in the past, with the help of intellect, that is a product of the past, is an utterly flawed exercise.

Therefore, we are all stuck and there is no way out.

“Even if you (want to) suppress your wants, the ‘past’ has to come to your help, and tell you, ‘How to suppress your wants’.

If you try to suppress that past, and try to be in the present, it will drive you crazy. You will flip.

Because you are trying to control something you see which you cannot control, you have no control over that, it a has tremendous momentum, it is not your past of thirty or forty years, but the past of the entire existence of every human being and other forms of life too.[1]

If you try to suppress that past, and try to be ‘in the present’, it will drive you crazy. You will flip.

See, it is part of your past, you know, it’s not such an easy thing and you have no way of controlling that at all.” – UG.

UG warns us not to use any force or restraint or control over thoughts as all such attempts are wrought with serious psychological and pathological consequences (‘you will flip’).

“So, if you try to control or stop the flow of a river through all these artificial means like putting a dam, and all that, then it will inundate the whole thing.

That’s why every time you control your thoughts, to watch your thoughts, to observe your thoughts, to be aware of your thoughts, you find that the thoughts are welling there all the time.” - UG

Controlling ‘thought’ with the help of ‘thought’ will multiply ‘thought’ making the problem much worse. It is like pouring gasoline over the fire to quench fire.

“Problems created by thought can never be solved by thought.” - UG

All our ‘problems of living’ including the day-to-day problems of love, resentment, hatred, jealousy, greed, fear (of the past or future), anger ( not getting what we want) etc. belong to the domain of thought and cannot be resolved by any technique using thought or thinking.

UG raises a red flag warning us against all attempts at ‘thought control’ to attain a ‘thoughtless state’ by giving us a glimpse of his own state,

‘This state’ is not in your interest. You are only interested in continuity. You want to continue, probably on a different level, and to function in a different dimension, but you want to continue somehow.

You wouldn't touch this with a barge pole. This is going to liquidate what you call "you," all of you - higher self, lower self, soul, Atman, conscious, subconscious - all of that.

(The Mystique of Enlightenment)

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World Mind (or Thought-o-sphere)

Like our biological past, inherited from other forms of life, our psychological ‘past’ too is the contribution of countless humans who have journeyed across the planet from time immemorial.

UG calls the collective past as the ‘world mind’ and refers to it in many of his talks. The ‘world mind’ or the ‘thought-o-sphere’ (rhyming with stratosphere) surrounds us on all sides like the air we breathe.

Every thought, every word from every individual, every speaker, ideologue, writer, poet, inventor, leader, saint, or sage from millennia is lodged into the ‘collective consciousness’.

Whenever there is a demand, the intellect taps into the collective past and siphons off huge chunks of knowledge from the ‘world mind’.

UG denounced thought as our enemy for a reason. Perverted thought acting out as an idea, ideology, strategy, plan or intent has immense potential for large scale death and destruction. The multitude of factions, movements, conflicts, clashes and wars we see in the world were set into motion by some perverted thought or idea or ideology. 

Nevertheless, UG highlights the benign role of thought in our day-to-day life, in the social or transactional world.

Without the help of thought or social conditioning, it is impossible to function ‘sanely and intelligently’ in this complex, complicated, conflict-ridden social world,

That’s the purpose of thought, you see! To help, to keep this organism going, so it (thought) is bound to be there, whether you like it or not.” – UG

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The last word - taking care of basic needs

Assuming that we decide to let go of all wants so as to lead a conflict-free and peaceful life, there is still no way we can avoid the physical needs of food, clothing and shelter. They remain a concern.

“If you don’t want a thing, you (still) have to want to take care of physical needs (basic necessities of life), if you don’t do that, it’s a perverse way of living.” - UG

To ignore basic needs of life is to be socially irresponsible. We become a burden or liability to others. It is a perverse way of living.

UG decried all manipulative, self-serving gurus as freeloaders who exploit the gullible to enjoy an opulent lifestyle themselves.

UG walked the talk, remained fiercely independent till the very end,  

“I will dig trenches, if I have to.”

He abhorred any idea of dependence on others. His credo for life was,

“Uncomplaining, uncompromising self-reliance.”   

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Audio Clip

Transcription of the audio clip:

The ‘past’ will always be there as long as you want something. Even if you (want to) suppress your wants (or to do anything with motive or purpose), the past has to come to your help, and tell you, ‘How to suppress your wants’.

So, if you differentiate the wants, as they do in India, as the spiritual wants as highly desirable, the be all and end all of your existence, and that want (spiritual) is no different from any other want.

But in that particular (Indian) culture, the emphasis is laid on the spiritual wants as the most desirable wants in contradistinction to all the other wants.

So, that ‘past’ is bound to be there as long as you want, doesn’t matter what you want.

So, if you don’t want a thing in this world, it (the past or the thought) is not there. 

Whether it’s there or not is of no importance, you see. Because you have no way of finding out whether it is there or not, then if you say, ‘it is there, it isn’t there’, that means you have to necessarily to use the past, (even) to find out ‘if it is there or not?’ It is not the question at all.

The situation is very clear. If you don’t want a thing, you (still) have to want to take care of (basic necessities or) physical needs, if you don’t do that, it’s a perverse way of living. Sure, so you have to draw a line, what your needs are?

My needs are not quite different from your needs, so I can’t dictate that these needs should be everybody’s. So, that’s not it. So, that ‘want’ (basic necessities) is essential whether you like it or not, it is there! That’s the purpose of thought, you see.

To help, to keep this organism going, (so) it (want) is bound to be there, whether you like it or not.

So, that (the past or thought) cannot be used for any other purpose other than that, (the past cannot be used, say, for) understanding yourself, reaching your spiritual goals, and all that sort of a thing.

So, how not to be without wants?

The most...trickiest of all questions is the ‘how’?

As long as you are looking for ‘how’, so long you are doomed…you know.

So, how to live? That’s the thing bothering people for centuries, so every religion, every teacher says, ‘This is how you should live”. So how can I be free from of that? That’s the one question that transforms into millions and millions of questions, that’s all!

So, ‘what do you want?’ And then ‘how you can get what you want?’ It is very simple thing.

If you try to suppress that past, and try to be in the present, it will drive you crazy. You will flip. 

Because you are trying to control something you see which you cannot control, you have no control over that, it a has tremendous momentum, it is not your past of thirty or forty years, but the past of the entire existence of every human being and other forms of life too, see its part of your past, you know, it’s not such an easy thing and you have no way of controlling that at all.

So, if you try to control or stop the flow of a river through all these artificial means like putting a dam and all that, then it will inundate the whole thing.

That’s why every time you try to control your thoughts, to watch your thoughts, to observe your thoughts, to be aware of your thoughts, you find that the thoughts are welling there all the time.

When you are not concerned about that (thought), whether it is there or not, it’s not important to you. It(thought) is there when there is a need for it, and not there when there is no need for it.

If it is there or not, you have no way of knowing it. But you are constantly using it. So, that, you see, you can maintain the continuity, that’s ‘you’. There is nothing there other than ‘that’.

What you call ‘you’ is the ‘continuity of that knowledge’ that is put in there. 

So, if that is not there, ‘you’ are coming to an end, what you call ‘yourself’, that ‘you’ is coming to an end. So, you do not want to come to an end. You want that ‘you’ to be transformed, changed into something else, into loving (being), and you want to function on a different level, or different dimension but you do not want that to come to an end.

You see the only way that it (you) can maintain its continuity is through this constant demand for knowing more and more and more. The only way it can add more and more to that knowledge is by asking this question, ‘how?’

 


[1] Science corroborates this crucial fact.

There is nothing unique about human biology that is millions of years old. Its primal building block is the gene. The gene has its origins in the likes of bacteria, viruses or other single-cell organisms.

“You're not completely human, at least when it comes to the genetic material inside your cells. You and everyone else may harbor as many as 145 genes that have jumped from bacteria, other single-celled organisms, and viruses and made themselves at home in the human genome.” 

(https://www.science.org/content/article/humans-may-harbor-more-100-genes-other-organisms))

 

"So, for the first time, the individual becomes a human" ~UG

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